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NETWORK: @peach0341 (anonymous) [post soujuurou's wild ride]

What would you consider the most unforgivable thing that a person could do to you? Something that someone could do, that they could never take back?

If it has been done to you, what happened? How did you treat that person afterward, if you kept in contact with them? If you didn't, do you regret ever severing off from them?

Have you done anything unforgivable? How did people respond to that--did they let you get a word in edge-wise to explain, or did they abandon you? Did you have to find your own way afterwards? How did it go for you, if so?

Do you think there's anything that one can do to earn forgiveness, depending on the severity of what happened? Do they deserve it? Does it depend? And is there a certain point that someone's allowed to give up on trying to find it, and should just stop trying to be good?

I'm curious as to what everyone's answers will be. Please don't give anymore info than you're comfortable with; these are just things that have been on my mind, lately. And please don't be rude to each other.

[this seems. infinitely more like a stream of conscious than anything actually coherent, but there's at least an attempt at maintaining some modicum of privacy. have at. be it on main or giving yourself a nice plurk-style anon-name, go for it.]

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I've done something unforgivable. I betrayed somebody who trusted me wholly.

They responded by chasing me to the edge of the world for revenge, but in the end, they were still weeping for me.

I had never wanted their forgiveness until that moment. Yet, now I still think about the tantalizing fantasy of them giving it.

that depends on what your definition of unforgivable is, i suppose.

i did, however, think very seriously about wiping out my city entirely.

What is unforgivable to one may be a blessing to another. I cannot recall how many 'unforgivable' things have been done to me...

But one of those actions saved my life. I don't consider it an unforgivable act, but someone else I know had the same thing inflicted upon them and she would do anything to have it undone.

And as for another of those actions, I took a series of unforgivable actions myself to force the perpetrators to atone, without care for anyone else I hurt in the process, and I never put myself in a place to be confronted for those actions, nor would I expect forgiveness if I did. I didn't forgive, after all.

I still haven't.

The rest is dust.

Whether forgiveness or hate is deserved... depends. I will not pry as to what the action you are seeking forgiveness for is, if you do not wish to share it, as I am not the person you're seeking forgiveness from... And even they may not give it, even if you deserve it.

If you wish to try continuing to be good, that's reason enough, no matter what is in the past. If you need to move forward and start over, so be it.

Are you seeking opinions, or anecdotes? Because, truthfully, the severity of such things are always dependent on the person who has been wronged, and even then, they have to decide if there was any wrongdoing to forgive.

For example, you have a dear friend who remembers next to nothing of your childhood together, of growing up under people who demanded the very best out of you or else you would be discarded, a real threat. As adults, your dear friend is aware that something happened to both of you as children, but not the specifics, and seeks the answers to all their questions by retracing both your steps, ending up in mortal danger a number of times due to the path they have been following. On the other hand, you have all of your memories, but you hold your tongue because you know that if you tell them, they would chase your shared past and likely end up stirring up a horror that neither of you are capable of dealing with. Thus, you watch them hurt themselves while you hold revelations but more suffering in your hands.

Like this little story, the answers to your questions have far more nuance than you may be seeking. One of the best answers I can give, truly, is to "be in that situation, and decide the answer for yourself in that exact moment".

Shortly before I arrived here, I was among people who were demanded to do something unforgivable. One person did it, and we all had to figure out how and why. In the end, what mattered to us was the motivation behind it. The punishment for it was execution, and so that happened.

Some held a grudge against her, but the majority were willing to give the benefit of doubt and believe in her kindness and her sincere wish for everyone else's wellbeing.

Not long afterwards, I myself committed the same action. It was a painful decision that tears me apart, especially because of the consequences it could bring to people I cared about, yet to this day I stand I took the right decision, even though was, by definition, a betrayal of everyone's trust. I got caught for it, and underwent the same fate of execution.

Frankly, I am very bitter about it. I do not blame they had to do it, but I feel spite regardless. Obviously, I did not want to die, and I did all in my power to attempt to prevent it, even if it meant at least one person dying on my place.

And yet, despite it all, I know more people than I thought were willing to look past what I did and not wish for my death. I heard them rooting for my escape. Even though I betrayed them, they were willing to not subject me to such a fate. While it did not work, there's only one conclusion:

The unforgivable cannot be forgiven, but it can be understood. Explanations are the first step. And while not everyone will accept them, or sympathize with the reasons, there are some who will. Take solace on that.

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i don't know. before i came here i'd probably say something like "killed my friends" but after seeing some of the crap people here went through, there's probably even worse things i can't even imagine.

i think

all you can really do is apologize and try to be better. but no one has to accept your apology and like i said everyone here has gone through way more than me.

[#NormieProblems.]

[Anon or not, there are like three other people here who might recognize the content of this post since he's not going to be 100% vague.]

I don't know if I've got any good answers for you on deserving forgiveness because I'm still trying to figure out my own feelings on that. But I guess I can talk about my own experiences. Maybe it'll be cathartic. IDK.

I only had one parent growing up and he was barely around because he was too into his work to raise me. I had to learn how to do everything on my own. Cooking, cleaning, school, you name it. There was one point that he actually lived with me but I was stupid to think it would last. I resented him and the subject of his work a lot. I still do, I think. Maybe not the work subject as much anymore, but I still can't understand why he abandoned me even when he said he loved me. How could he love me when he would rather kill anyone in his way INCLUDING ME than let his stupid dream be ruined?

I'll never get the chance to figure it out with him because he's gone now.

I was in the process of doing something unforgivable to someone I care deeply for when I was brought here. I've asked myself if I should change course when I return or if I should continue the path I chose, and my answer has always remained the same. I would continue to lie to him, hurt him, and hurt those around him if it means protecting him.

I don't seek his forgiveness. All I want is for him to be safe. If it means he loathes me for all that I've done, then so be it.

But it sounds as though your situation is quite different. Do you seek forgiveness for this act of yours? Do you hope that by hearing our stories it may help ease your burden?

[There's no way to get it across through text, but that isn't supposed to be pointed, just curious.]

I think I may not be the most reassuring person to speak on this.

[ She's just going to say this straight off because that almost immediately came to mind for her.

Also, like maybe 3 people might be able to figure out who she is based on one word alone, but Sunrise isn't thinking about that, specifically. ]

I think people should stay far, far away from necromancy, even if I would understand their reasons for it. Nothing good comes from disturbing the dead.

But what I think is most unforgivable is to prolong someone's suffering and deliberately kill them slowly and painfully. More so when they beg for mercy.

[ This is definitely not morbid or at all ominous, truly. ]

It was not done to me, but something unforgivable was done to someone I am closely related to. I cannot forgive the ones responsible. And if I were to speak to them, it is to make sure they remember what they have done, and that the truth has never been forgotten.

Personally, I doubt they are sorry about it. If they do not wish to atone, then they must be punished.

I think It depends on the people, and on the crime. I once told myself I could forgive the one who crushed me entirely. I don't think I can, anymore. But I've found myself able to overlook terrible things in others here, simply because they treat me with such kindness. I don't know if this is good or not. I don't know if I should feel guilty, or continue going onward. Maybe someone else can forgive her. I can't. And maybe someone can forgive you, and the one you wronged can't. Or maybe they can. Perhaps it depends on the strength in one's heart. I don't know.

[ WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE

eli isn't aware anonymous posting is an option??? ]

R U ALL NEW PEOPLE?!!1 DID BRAPHINE KIDNAP MORE shit these r real deep questions 2 ask when uve just shown up what the hell

[stares at this long list of anons……… no wonder honesty week was so unpopular huh]

anything some shithead tries with me won’t ever compare to a group of psychos murdering my friends in cold blood. even if they went on their knees and begged for forgiveness till they were blue in the face, they’ve done enough crap to other people that I’d tell them to cram it up their ass.

besides, if someone’s got so much time on their hands they’re pissing it away by thinking of people’s forgiveness, they oughta use it on figuring out where they went wrong so they can set things right.

[He's not even bothering with anon because his answer is too obviously from him.]

Even I know shit like this is way too damn complicated for there to be one clear answer Like there's murder, but I've killed a lotta people. And then it's different than the murders that guy Argenti killed did, apparently? Plus some people're mad at Argenti fer killing him too The two people I trusted the most stood aside and let me get killed I wanted to hate them for it and stay mad forever But in my palace I had to properly admit that wanting to be mad and actually being mad are two different things I guess I'm sayin' sometimes people act a certain way just because they feel like they're supposed to

these are a bunch of loaded questions, aren't they?? asking about if people have done unforgivable things...

there are things that i regret doing, that maybe i shouldn't have done, but i don't see any reason in wondering if i should be forgiven for it or not. it happened and it can't be undone, and who's really to blame for it is irrelevant. redeeming myself for it isn't up to me, it's to the people i've dealt with.

for unforgivable things done to me... i don't really care. i'm used to it by now. everyone has something they want and ideas of what i can do for them, and if i get used or taken advantage of or tossed aside because i'm useless... then whatever. after the first time, it doesn't hurt anymore. i can handle things like that.

i'd rather someone treat me terribly than let someone who can't handle it get hurt. people have different threshold for what they can tolerate, and some people are sensitive.

These seem like a lot of heavy questions. What's weighing on your mind?

[ he has read quite a bit on these threads after the events at the nekyia, and soujuurou realizes that there's something here that's just not clicking with him. what would he find to be absolutely unforgivable?

... ]

I don't think there's anything that I think is unforgivable. As long as they're doing what they feel is right for their life, that's fine, even if I don't agree with it.

[ He is not anonymous on this post. He has nothing to hide. ]

I think most people are deserving of forgiveness, but like others have said, whether or not they're forgiven is up to the other person to decide. Everyone has their own threshold, though. For example, I don't think I could find it in me to forgive people who love seeing innocent people suffer. Now...I've done things people may consider unforgivable in my past, but to me, I did what I had to in order to survive. Whether or not those people forgive me for that is something I choose not to dwell on, because I was able to turn things around down the line. Still, when it comes to other things...I guess the person I've had the hardest time forgiving is myself.

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