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NETWORK: @peach0341 (anonymous) [post soujuurou's wild ride]
What would you consider the most unforgivable thing that a person could do to you? Something that someone could do, that they could never take back?
If it has been done to you, what happened? How did you treat that person afterward, if you kept in contact with them? If you didn't, do you regret ever severing off from them?
Have you done anything unforgivable? How did people respond to that--did they let you get a word in edge-wise to explain, or did they abandon you? Did you have to find your own way afterwards? How did it go for you, if so?
Do you think there's anything that one can do to earn forgiveness, depending on the severity of what happened? Do they deserve it? Does it depend? And is there a certain point that someone's allowed to give up on trying to find it, and should just stop trying to be good?
I'm curious as to what everyone's answers will be. Please don't give anymore info than you're comfortable with; these are just things that have been on my mind, lately. And please don't be rude to each other.
[this seems. infinitely more like a stream of conscious than anything actually coherent, but there's at least an attempt at maintaining some modicum of privacy. have at. be it on main or giving yourself a nice plurk-style anon-name, go for it.]
If it has been done to you, what happened? How did you treat that person afterward, if you kept in contact with them? If you didn't, do you regret ever severing off from them?
Have you done anything unforgivable? How did people respond to that--did they let you get a word in edge-wise to explain, or did they abandon you? Did you have to find your own way afterwards? How did it go for you, if so?
Do you think there's anything that one can do to earn forgiveness, depending on the severity of what happened? Do they deserve it? Does it depend? And is there a certain point that someone's allowed to give up on trying to find it, and should just stop trying to be good?
I'm curious as to what everyone's answers will be. Please don't give anymore info than you're comfortable with; these are just things that have been on my mind, lately. And please don't be rude to each other.
[this seems. infinitely more like a stream of conscious than anything actually coherent, but there's at least an attempt at maintaining some modicum of privacy. have at. be it on main or giving yourself a nice plurk-style anon-name, go for it.]
@peach5037 | cw vague allusion to torture
[ She's just going to say this straight off because that almost immediately came to mind for her.
Also, like maybe 3 people might be able to figure out who she is based on one word alone, but Sunrise isn't thinking about that, specifically. ]
I think people should stay far, far away from necromancy, even if I would understand their reasons for it. Nothing good comes from disturbing the dead.
But what I think is most unforgivable is to prolong someone's suffering and deliberately kill them slowly and painfully. More so when they beg for mercy.
[ This is definitely not morbid or at all ominous, truly. ]
It was not done to me, but something unforgivable was done to someone I am closely related to. I cannot forgive the ones responsible. And if I were to speak to them, it is to make sure they remember what they have done, and that the truth has never been forgotten.
Personally, I doubt they are sorry about it. If they do not wish to atone, then they must be punished.
cw continued
Even if the topic is unpleasant, it's still a worthwhile perspective to have. I wasn't asking this for reassurance sake. I want to understand this strange and irrational world, and doing it myself was doing nothing. I figured that seeing it through the eyes of others might help.
As for that experience...honestly, I think all of that is perfectly understandable. The dead deserve to stay in the ground once their time is up, and to make someone suffer like that is completely unforgivable. They deserve to live with their crimes forever more, so nothing like that can happen again. I think you're perfectly in the right, Peach. ...Peach 2? Something.
It's a pretty cut and dry situation. If they did it out of malice, they should be punished.
...Would you want to be the one to administer that punishment, if they were to be found by you?
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It has to be me.
[ So it's not just a matter of "want", but "must". ]
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Taken from someone, rather. But thank you.
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Forgive me, I may have misread. Misinterpreted? I'm not sure.
It sounded like that person was precious to you, too, so I thought...
Sorry. My point still stands.
...And I appreciate your perspective.
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[ And it's hard for her to try to figure out how to put this in words because she gets the sense that it would sound convoluted from the outside, but... ]
I never met her, but I still owe many things to her. So it is my duty to fulfil her unfinished business and carry out her final will.
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Would you mind if I asked what you meant by that? Or would it be too personal? I won't pry if you don't wish.
But you sound like a noble person, and she must have been too. At least, that's my impression.
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In some ways, she was. In other ways, she was not so much.
I do not mind you asking, but do you mean by what I owe her, or her final wishes?
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[Too polite for her own good, even now.]
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[ Extremely straightforward, and this totally isn't like, at all concerning. ]
And I owe some of my skills to her too.
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There's a pause, and Sayaka's not...entirely sure how to tactfully bridge the gap of an apology and wondering how much of this person is themself--she doesn't know anyone like that
not in this thread at leastand it hits her that she's not entirely sure what to say.]...That sounds rather concerning. Are you...
I don't even know how to respond, honestly. That sounds horrific no matter how one thinks about it, and I sure can understand why you're angry now. It sounds like it's pretty difficult, or would I be wrong in assuming?
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What do you mean by "difficult"?
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...I don't know how to ask my question without coming off as completely tactless. About your situation.
[SHE CAN'T JUST FUCKING ASK HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO ASSUMEDLY LIVE WITHOUT A SOUL???]
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You may be tactless.
[ Yeah, that's her solution to this: permission granted to be potentially tactless. ]
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...Do you have a soul of your own? Or are you just. Her brain, but slightly...different, I guess?
[it takes her a solid couple of hours to send this. we're doing great here.]
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Oh, this is something she actually sort of has an answer to for once. ]
They are not mutually exclusive. Although I have inherited her brain, I am not the same person as her. Ms. Velvet has said it is highly likely I have my own soul.
[ Somehow, anyway. ]
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[so a soul just. appeared. afterward. oh this is going to do sayaka's head in--]
I guess it was sort of confusing to think about. One always thinks that the body and soul are made for each other, and once separated, that's it.
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[ Sunrise, you are not making this any less confusing. ]
What do people say about the soul after dying, where you are from?
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Though, if they become corrupted, they can turn into youkai. Or...monsters, I guess, is the best way to put them.
But usually, the soul isn't able to be seen or interacted with.
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Where I am from, everyone has two souls. There is an upper soul that consists of most of the things that make someone an individual. Things like personality, beliefs, and critical thinking. The lower soul consists of basic needs and instincts. When a person dies, the upper soul is separated from the body to pass through the afterlife, while the lower soul remains.
Someone I know who is more knowledgeable in these matters hypothesized that I may be a case where I have a "new" upper soul put into a body.
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But that. That is not even close to it.
[Hey Sunrise? What the fuck is Exalted World???]
Don't get me wrong, it makes...sense, I think? I think we talked about this in school, though it was split into three sort of things. What was it...id, ego, and superego? I think that's it...
Those are like the three sort of...minds, I guess? Id was impulse, superego is your morals, and ego was what was inbetween. The...I guess best way to describe a soul.
That's interesting, though...
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It sounds something like that.
What most people consider "zombies" back home are usually bodies manipulated by someone with sorcery, or bodies with the lingering lower soul being agitated in some way. I think you could say they are more like clever animals. I am apparently rather unusual.