NETWORK: @peach0341 (anonymous) [post soujuurou's wild ride]

[destage]

What would you consider the most unforgivable thing that a person could do to you? Something that someone could do, that they could never take back?

If it has been done to you, what happened? How did you treat that person afterward, if you kept in contact with them? If you didn't, do you regret ever severing off from them?

Have you done anything unforgivable? How did people respond to that--did they let you get a word in edge-wise to explain, or did they abandon you? Did you have to find your own way afterwards? How did it go for you, if so?

Do you think there's anything that one can do to earn forgiveness, depending on the severity of what happened? Do they deserve it? Does it depend? And is there a certain point that someone's allowed to give up on trying to find it, and should just stop trying to be good?

I'm curious as to what everyone's answers will be. Please don't give anymore info than you're comfortable with; these are just things that have been on my mind, lately. And please don't be rude to each other.

[this seems. infinitely more like a stream of conscious than anything actually coherent, but there's at least an attempt at maintaining some modicum of privacy. have at. be it on main or giving yourself a nice plurk-style anon-name, go for it.]

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[finalmix]

i wonder that myself, considering that by the textbook definition of the word, killing someone you've never met before shouldn't be forgivable, right? but he forgave me anyway.

humans are such irrational creatures sometimes, aren't they?

it was... rotten. corrupted. shallow. unchanging. selfish. the starting point of something festering that was threatening to spread to other undergrounds. i gave them thirty days to change. whether to change for the better or for the worse, i didn't care, i didn't think that they would be able to change at all.

i didn't think that it was worth saving.

cw: neglect, mild violent fantasy??? i'm so sorry

[destage]

...Either that person is very odd and just forgiving in general, or they might have been hoping you'd let your guard down enough to get one last shot at vengeance. I'm not going to assume overmuch.

But I'm not going to disagree with you on that. We tend to be. It's why I can't really understand them either.

[The second part of that gets some contemplation from Sayaka, pausing a bit as she considers everything. There's a part of her that doesn't like that, forcing people to change or die, but if those people really deserved it...

(And boy, do people as a whole deserve it. Every selfish person, every idiot who's belittled her dream and the sacrifices that she made to obtain it, everyone who demanded these sacrifices of her, everyone who left her behind to learn how to be a human being from television alone--all of them, all of them deserve to be hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt like she has and finally understand, and if they can't, they can--)]

It sounds like you got thrown into hell itself. If they wouldn't change without a significant amount forcing their hand, they got too comfortable with their rotten lives. I'm not going to act like what you did was good, granted, but let's just say I can sort of get it. People as a whole are kind of terrible like that.

Can I ask what happened, at the end?

don't be, that's like par for the course in danganronpa,

[finalmix]

heehee, you're quite right in one aspect. he's a curious one, my partner. i gave him a chance to shoot me in cold blood because he had every reason to, and he couldn't bring himself to do it. the simple pull of a trigger to end it all, and he was too conflicted to do the logical thing to seek revenge.

irrationality. such a strange thing to fall to, in the end.

[ joshua sounding fond over neku? wow. what is this character development. ]

on the contrary, my dear peach, my city wasn't hell - it was wonderful. it was beautiful, brilliant, thriving, and that's why i could see the rot slowly consuming it from the inside out despite my attempts at caring for it and building it. i loved it too much, i fear. even if i had to doom it with my own two hands.

[ ... people are kind of terrible like that, is what he used to think. still does, mostly, although-- ]

that's the thing about people, though, isn't it? everyone has their own little internal world - a secret garden that only they can enter. each world follows its own internal logic - a little bit like the palaces we've come across, no? the logic of one world means nothing in another, which means it's impossible to really know someone.

my opponent in the game thought the best of the city, believing that it could rise above its corruption and filth. i didn't think so, so i gave him thirty days to prove me wrong.

in the end? are you asking for spoilers, darling? what do you think happened in the end~ do you think i ended up destroying the city? or did i stay my hand?

you know what absolutely fair

[destage]

Taking a life is a rather serious thing, you know. For humans, at least. I don't know if that was why he could have, but...your partner sounds like an interesting person, at least. You sound very fond of him.

[...Sayaka shouldn't be thinking this sounds like a particularly messy couple breakup, but wow. It sure sounds like it. Only thing they're missing is a callout video--

But even still, Sayaka listens.]

Ahhhh. So it was because of the fact that the city held such beauty that you wanted it's people destroyed. Or something like that, maybe? I'm not going to claim to really understand it, but wanting to preserve something like that is understandable. Loving something to the extent that you can't stand to see anyone hurt it.

[Sayaka isn't sure how to respond to the rest. The secret garden comment feels...it's not something she understands. She's so used to sanding herself down and keeping any intrusive, terrible thoughts under the floorboards of her mind. Her secret garden was practically a public one by force, to be ripped of the unsightly things so that way people only see the beauty. The cuteness of their favorite idol, their pure and perfect example who couldn't hide anything.]

...I can't say I understand that, but I think I get it in theory. But your friend sounds like the optimistic type. The kind that wants to see the best in everything.

But, ah. I'm not asking for spoilers if you don't want to give them. But if I have to take a guess...given that he didn't kill you, maybe you ended up killing him?

But I don't think that you destroyed the city. Because of what he was unable to do. That's what I think.

[finalmix]

[ next time the anon poll can be: does it count as a breakup if two people never got together ever, ]

for humans? my dear peach, are you implying that i'm not human?

[ he jests. OR DOES HE-- ]

let's just say... even after everything that i put him through, he still surprises me on most counts. and that he would probably hate to be here~ hehe.

[ there's a long pause between this first paragraph and the next one. if sayaka could see joshua typing, the typing bubble would go on for Ages ]

you misunderstand me. the city is its people, isn't it? you can't separate one and the same. i thought you'd understand with everything that was happening here, how the moods of the people have cleared up the more of these monsters you defeat in the nekyia. it's a Purification. i wanted to stamp out the rot before it could destroy my city further. they were hurting themselves. do you think it's unforgivable to want to save someone from themselves?

[ and joshua doesn't want to admit it, but he hurt with them. ]

my partner? or my opponent? i wouldn't call either of them optimistic, i think. one of them was the worst person in the city, and the other was... blinded, i think.

[ he has Complicated Feelings about kitaniji, ok!!!! ]

ah, ah. i must be losing my touch if you guessed the ending so quickly. you are half-correct, though.

[ he's not saying which half. ]

[destage]

You could be. You also could not. I wouldn't be surprised at this point, but it's mostly the ones who aren't who refer to people like that. Did I make an incorrect assumption?

[Sayaka's not entirely sure, but it is a pretty sus way to talk about your fellows, if little else.]

I've never claimed to understand the world around me, unfortunately. Apologies for the assumption. I've never really felt any sort of connection to the place I called home, to...anywhere, really, because such things are more of a liability than they're worth sometimes. At least in my line of work.

[...GIRL,,,]

A city can be just a city, but it is definitely...shaded, I think? By the people who live there. I'll be honest, though; this might be a little beyond me.

But I think it depends. On the actions taken to save them, whether they want it, and a lot of other factors. But I think in general...no. It's not unforgivable. But it leaves a lot of questions at the end of whether it's worth it, if the actions mean you can't enjoy the fruit of your labor.

[...She'll leave that be, though.]

Heehee. I guess my good intuitions guided me in an okay direction.

But...will you tell me more, about those partners you had? If you don't mind sharing, of course. I've no intention of forcing it, but they sound like interesting people.